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	<title>Comments on: Friend Exchange Rates</title>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelgruen.com/2008/04/18/friend-exchange-rates/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I question the value of Dunbar's number, first you need to keep in mind that it varies.  It's probably higher for more intelligent people.  You seem to be viewing it as something that you can't increase.  But isn't that exactly why we use facebook?  To keep in touch with more people than we could otherwise?  To put our memories about our friends in a digital form so we don't have to remember everything about them? I don't see this as a tradeoff, I'm not giving up intimate friends for more casual ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I question the value of Dunbar&#8217;s number, first you need to keep in mind that it varies.  It&#8217;s probably higher for more intelligent people.  You seem to be viewing it as something that you can&#8217;t increase.  But isn&#8217;t that exactly why we use facebook?  To keep in touch with more people than we could otherwise?  To put our memories about our friends in a digital form so we don&#8217;t have to remember everything about them? I don&#8217;t see this as a tradeoff, I&#8217;m not giving up intimate friends for more casual ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Gruen</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelgruen.com/2008/04/18/friend-exchange-rates/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PurpleCar--

I'm not explicitly examining intimacy in social media; rather, I'm using the numbers in my social media networks to explore this point: what's the limit to our social cognition? 

As for the 35,000 people, I'm sure they expect you to know that they know you, but not the other way around. You are part of that community, for sure; but, how well do you understand that community on an atomic level? You can't know every one of those 35,000 people... so what's the limit? Dunbar shows it's somewhere in the 150-person range. Social media probably enables you to know more, perhaps 300 or 500; regardless, there's a limit.

I'm more interested in thinking about the tradeoff: knowing more people versus really knowing fewer people.

I'm not interested in interviewing 6.67 people for one of my "coveted spots", but rather, I understand that my knowing 6.67 people occupies the energy that I would otherwise give to one, more intimate relationship. 

So, what's the limit? Can you know 10 people in exchange for one intimate relationship? 20? 50? 100? I don't know.

Additionally, what's the effect? In our pursuit to know more people (enabled by social media or otherwise), does knowing more people implicitly dilute our intimate relationships? Corollary: does that change our benchmark for "intimate"?

We only have so much social capacity. What's the best way to use it?

As far as I know, there's no social media phenomena to award BFF badges or official interviews for coveted "who's in your Top 5?" spaces on your mobile. (Though, that might be a fun thing to try!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PurpleCar&#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not explicitly examining intimacy in social media; rather, I&#8217;m using the numbers in my social media networks to explore this point: what&#8217;s the limit to our social cognition? </p>
<p>As for the 35,000 people, I&#8217;m sure they expect you to know that they know you, but not the other way around. You are part of that community, for sure; but, how well do you understand that community on an atomic level? You can&#8217;t know every one of those 35,000 people&#8230; so what&#8217;s the limit? Dunbar shows it&#8217;s somewhere in the 150-person range. Social media probably enables you to know more, perhaps 300 or 500; regardless, there&#8217;s a limit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more interested in thinking about the tradeoff: knowing more people versus really knowing fewer people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in interviewing 6.67 people for one of my &#8220;coveted spots&#8221;, but rather, I understand that my knowing 6.67 people occupies the energy that I would otherwise give to one, more intimate relationship. </p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s the limit? Can you know 10 people in exchange for one intimate relationship? 20? 50? 100? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Additionally, what&#8217;s the effect? In our pursuit to know more people (enabled by social media or otherwise), does knowing more people implicitly dilute our intimate relationships? Corollary: does that change our benchmark for &#8220;intimate&#8221;?</p>
<p>We only have so much social capacity. What&#8217;s the best way to use it?</p>
<p>As far as I know, there&#8217;s no social media phenomena to award BFF badges or official interviews for coveted &#8220;who&#8217;s in your Top 5?&#8221; spaces on your mobile. (Though, that might be a fun thing to try!)</p>
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		<title>By: PurpleCar</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelgruen.com/2008/04/18/friend-exchange-rates/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>PurpleCar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michael. I'm confused.  Why are we examining intimacy in social media?  We who are involved in the community aren't looking to use social media as solely a place to keep up with our close friends.  It's a workplace.  At my last workplace, I'd guess more than 5,000 people (from a total of about 35,000 worldwide) knew who I was and what I did; I had a high profile job.  What's the difference here?  Close friends in and out of work (like close friends online &#38; offline) know who they are and know how to catch up with me. Am I missing some phenomena in which social media contacts expect more from me? Am I supposed to send them BFF badges for their blog or something?  Your division of numbers give me the image of you interviewing 6.67 people to fill 1 of the coveted spots in your inner circle.  I have a small inner circle of online folks myself, so that would be quite a bit of interviews with my 700+ peeps on Twitter.  Please treat me as an inner circler and 'splain.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michael. I&#8217;m confused.  Why are we examining intimacy in social media?  We who are involved in the community aren&#8217;t looking to use social media as solely a place to keep up with our close friends.  It&#8217;s a workplace.  At my last workplace, I&#8217;d guess more than 5,000 people (from a total of about 35,000 worldwide) knew who I was and what I did; I had a high profile job.  What&#8217;s the difference here?  Close friends in and out of work (like close friends online &amp; offline) know who they are and know how to catch up with me. Am I missing some phenomena in which social media contacts expect more from me? Am I supposed to send them BFF badges for their blog or something?  Your division of numbers give me the image of you interviewing 6.67 people to fill 1 of the coveted spots in your inner circle.  I have a small inner circle of online folks myself, so that would be quite a bit of interviews with my 700+ peeps on Twitter.  Please treat me as an inner circler and &#8217;splain.  Thanks.</p>
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